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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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the nra released a web video that gets very personal with the president. take a look. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have not by their own choice but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. i think it's awful to bring public figures' children into the political debate. they don't deserve to be there, and i think for any of us who are public figures, you see that kind of ad and you cringe. >> chris christie i think is on the right side of this politically speaking for himself at home in new jersey. why aren't more republicans -- he's the only one i'm aware of who took this position. >> absolutely. chris christie once again -- first of all, he's consistent because he's yelled at people for asking about his own kids being private schooled, if you remember
the nra released a web video that gets very personal with the president. take a look. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have not by their own choice but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is...
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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawful hire undocumented workers. we know what a pathway to citizenship looks like and what the criteria should be. and so really the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. i'd like to see if we can get it done sooner in the first half of the year if possible. >> r. >>> and now to hope that remains in the search for a missing u.s. air force pilot off the coast of italy. lucas grunther and his f-16 is missing. his wife describes him as a self reliant outdoorsman and if anybody can survive something like this, lucas could. fog hampered the efforts but among the debris found so far, there is evidence he jekted. >>> developing stories to keep an eye on for you, will he or won't he ge
. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawful hire undocumented workers. we know what a pathway to...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jumping. this i
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any validity, we would have confiscated every gun because we've been working this for many years and the brady bill would have been a first step. that's a silly argument. people like mitch mcconnell are stoking it. in my state he put out an e-mail that was titled, they are coming to get your guns. that's how brazen some are them are. >> let me ask you about the specifics because we were talking about wayne lapierre's statement which he released yesterday. one of the things he said, no on universal background checks. i'm wondering what you feel the mood on the hill is right now and whether you think
why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any...
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this is the first time they publicly reached out to the nra. they will meet tomorrow, but don't expect wayne la pierre to be there. they are sending a representative in his place. biden will release a statement here with us for the first time in 2013, howard fineman, director of the "huffington post" media group. welcome back to the show. first of all -- we have got the news of the pending white house meeting with the nra with representatives and we don't know the details yet. am i right to be cynical that the white house has to look like they are reaching out and look like they are receptive to it and neither wants to be talking to the another. other. >> that will be about the most insigne seer hand shake. wayne la pierre won't be there. it's possible that they are out here and looking for someone right now. >> howard, i do know. it's going to be james l. baker who was a 30-year vet, former executive director of the nra. we do know. >> good. the symbolism is still such that there is no deal with the nra unless wayne la pierre is in the room an
this is the first time they publicly reached out to the nra. they will meet tomorrow, but don't expect wayne la pierre to be there. they are sending a representative in his place. biden will release a statement here with us for the first time in 2013, howard fineman, director of the "huffington post" media group. welcome back to the show. first of all -- we have got the news of the pending white house meeting with the nra with representatives and we don't know the details yet. am i...
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you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they propose happen to increase gun sales. all of their solutions are about finding ways to get more guns into the hands of-mile-an-hour people and this new little industry that's popping up which is training people to be a first responder in the classroom or a nurse first responder. all of that is an industry and the nra benefits. >> if you're a nurse, you can shoot and then you can treat. >> indeed. you have two hands. >> of course. david corn, joy r50ed, thank you both so much. >>> coming up, will the man with the illegible signature get tough on wall street? stay with us. >> jack assures me he is going to
you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they...
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the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-oldh adia pendleton of chicago who was fate ideally shot in what may have been a gang turf war. after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival, it all happened since then, we learned in 20
the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs...
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nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you look at it. even when the nra has a bad day and the media is calling them too aggressive, that's a good day for the nra. that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. but, you know, i think the politics of maligning the nra is probably not a strategically good idea. that poll, for example, showing the favorability numbers, gun sales have skyrocketed, there's been an urgency to vilify the nra. for example, there's an ad out right now, one of a dozen, maligning a congressman named john barrow, a d
nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr. steele, it's good to have you onboard. >> good to be with you. >> we're going to shift topics because a lot of talk has been made about this gop retreat. let me get everybody up to speed on thisment republican lawmakers going to be meeting in williamsburg coming up for three days the main agenda there is looking at how to broaden the tent. how to bring in more minority voters, how to bring in more women on this. michael, they're really getting beat across the nose on this one because they are apparently doing this in a place where it is named for a former slave owner. and s
because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr....
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. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is for the president. >> joining me from washington is nbc news capital hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. linds yay graham, his i'm confident that there will be bipartisan opposition and then roy blunt says that this is the president trying to curbs the rights of middle class americans. >> reporter: certainly we don't expect anything coming from the republican-led house so the pressure really falls on the senate democrats. and what we expect is that when they come back next week, of course we have got the inauguration and then senior aides tell us they plan to meet with the democrats within the senate to talk
. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is...
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eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country, but in fact is the mouthpiece for global multinational huge corporations. so that's nothing new to anybody watching these hearings take place in washington. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." you know, if you want a good example of the cultural divide that we have in this country. they're raffling off 200 guns, including three ar-15 assault rifles. perfectly legal. it is their biggest fundraiser of the year. this is just another day at the office for how to raise money for youth sports in the middle of the country. now, w
eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country,...
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that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to common ground. rocker ted nugent compared gun owners to rosa parks. he told the web site "world net daily," quote, there will come a time when the gun owners of america, the law-abiding gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. i wonder if he's off his rocker, pun intended. >>> but then you have yesterday, the judge report showed pictures of hitler and stalin next to a link on the white house considering executive action on gun control. i mean, these are, like, wa
that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to...
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the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've learned since the newtown tragedy that wayne lapierre represents the interests of gun manufacturers, not of gun owners. i think it's clear there's a lot of daylight between the two. one of the things that became clear today in the hearing, i think, was that lapierre's credibility is quickly evapor e evaporating. even amongst republicans who are squeamish about the lunatic things this guy has said from time to time. not just going after the president's children. not just the idea we ought to be marketing assaults to 10-year-old kids. when chairman leahy today exposed the fact lap
the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've...
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one thing that people don't understand about the nra is that the nra lobbies both republicans and democrats. the nra is very, very effective in local elections, and municipal elections and statewide elections and they do it on both sides of the aisle. so this is a political process challenge, not just a party challenge or a partisan challenge. so what i would challenge e lekted officials to do is to rise to the occasion. you might be afraid of being out flanked by an nra supported contender, but the issues are just too overwhelming. to be honest, they're really too simple. we're not talking about taking away everyone's guns. 06 sli, the congressman from north carolina where a lot of people hunt and people want to be able to defend themselves. he understands those things. but at the end of the day, what we need are universal background checks. we need row bost assault weapons ban. and then we also have to pay some attention to other things with the ways in which we can wrestle with the proliferation of guns that are already here. but the first step are these things that people have been talk
one thing that people don't understand about the nra is that the nra lobbies both republicans and democrats. the nra is very, very effective in local elections, and municipal elections and statewide elections and they do it on both sides of the aisle. so this is a political process challenge, not just a party challenge or a partisan challenge. so what i would challenge e lekted officials to do is to rise to the occasion. you might be afraid of being out flanked by an nra supported contender,...
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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get with law enforcement. if you were for common sense gun regulations you were for getting tough on crime. if you were against them, you were weak on crime. that got a number of votes from the republican party. the president clearly occupying the political center with law enforcement, parents, teachers, community leaders. the nra and some elements of the republican party associating themselves with people that would desecrate the memory of the victims in newtown, people that would then try to, as "the new york times" exposed yesterday, ma
this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of...
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a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in some ways? >> you know, i think we are living in a time when there is slightly a culture of instant amnesia where -- and maybe it's to do with the amount of media we have access to. it's like we gorge ourselves on a story, and then after a few days, it's gone. and that happens, unfortunately, at a policy level but also from a viewer level. and so the urgency seems so intense at the time. and it certainly did -- i was up in newtown for four days at the time, and it seemed like the whole country was focused on this. you had not just manch
a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in...
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joe manchin says he might be working with nra and mark kirk from indiana. do you think that's an area red state democrats in the senate actual consensus for that policy outcome? >> if they support background checks for gun control and the her its of the policy, electoral politics should have nothing to do with their decision. you know, 90% of voters and nra owners and maybe 85% of members support background checks for gun control. i'm sorry, for gun owners. so yeah. go ahead and do it if you support it. >> amen. the only nate that counts, thank you very much. >> oh! >>> up next, republicans pushing a rule change to the electoral college that professor kornacki says in place in 2012 could have us with president romney right now. scary! >>> and we have a theme with the music today. tell us what you think it is. it's friday, january 25th. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in go
joe manchin says he might be working with nra and mark kirk from indiana. do you think that's an area red state democrats in the senate actual consensus for that policy outcome? >> if they support background checks for gun control and the her its of the policy, electoral politics should have nothing to do with their decision. you know, 90% of voters and nra owners and maybe 85% of members support background checks for gun control. i'm sorry, for gun owners. so yeah. go ahead and do it if...
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and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with the strategy that the nra has where they're not talking to the broad majority of people and not talking to people who are in the middle on this issue but only a narrow angry base and the more they do that, the more they risk marginalizing themselves in this discussion. >> you say it shouldn't be a surprise that the nra not support an assault weapons ban and what was seen as the least controversial aspect of this debate has been a universal background check looking at the polling even folk who is are members of the nra and who republicans seem to support that idea. wayne lapierre
and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with...
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more people support the nra. in fact, as you see there, than they do hollywood and the entertainment industry. on the other hand, new jersey's governor chris christie spoke out against the nra and their latest ad campaign. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have, not by their own choice, but by requirement, to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. i think it's off to bring public figures' children into the political debate. they don't deserve to be there. i think for any of us who are public figures you see that kind of ad and you cringe. >> all right. as we head into the weekend, the big story in washington, this sunday just before noon, president obama scheduled to take the oath of office for his second term in the white house. that private swearing in ceremony will be followed by the public inauguration on monday. the president and congress not doing exactly equal in the eyes of the american people. the pre
more people support the nra. in fact, as you see there, than they do hollywood and the entertainment industry. on the other hand, new jersey's governor chris christie spoke out against the nra and their latest ad campaign. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have, not by their own choice, but by requirement, to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. i think it's off to bring public...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you have one force that doesn't want to do anything. you have i think one force on the other side that wants to do a lot. and then the middle is what is that compromise? what is that reasonable thing that can pass? that's where it gets really difficult. >> absolutely. and we know the emotions involved and we have watched hearings, for example, in connecticut with the family members of children who were killed and spouses who were killed and the newtown massacre. you know, you have the president talking about chicago and today rahm emanuel, the mayor of chica
he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you...
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this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of what that executive direction might look like. vice president biden talking about some of the ideas that have been bantied back and forth in these meetings. here's what he had to say today. take a listen. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we have met with. and i'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons can be owned. and one is there is a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal backgr
this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of...
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now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i think programs like yours are essential to explain how hard this fight is going to be and how motivated every single person that has ever wanted to do anything about this issue needs to do it right now. the president has put his personal prestige behind trying to get this gun. the vice president has worked on common sense reforms, but everybody who is through anything like what you just n d named in cities and communities across the united states of america need to understand that this is going to be hard, tough, long and la boroborious, but it going to be worth it. >> congressman moran
now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i...
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the nra reportedly got $1 million from one ammunition company through a partnership deal. essentially, this is profit-driven politics. not only does it profit the gun salesmen, but also the nra gets $1 back on some of these programs. >> right. well, as we just commented on, the idea that this is encroaching on the second amendment is just false because, as we pointed out, the supreme court has actually invited these kind of regulations. your explanation is absolutely right. what this is doing is this is driving sales, and i think what i would refer to as blood money for gun manufacturers and what has been most revealing about all of this is that the nra is now widely recognized, widely perceived as not representing gun owners but representing gun manufacturers. and you see it with these idiotic statements, not just the ad on the president's children, the silly statements like rush limbaugh, this idea that he now is for arming the black panther movement. that's quite new. but also in addition to what dr. peterson said, martin luther king opposed gun sales. he was very much
the nra reportedly got $1 million from one ammunition company through a partnership deal. essentially, this is profit-driven politics. not only does it profit the gun salesmen, but also the nra gets $1 back on some of these programs. >> right. well, as we just commented on, the idea that this is encroaching on the second amendment is just false because, as we pointed out, the supreme court has actually invited these kind of regulations. your explanation is absolutely right. what this is...
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you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president met with ducks unlimited and some other sort of water fowl outdoor sports groups, and later today the attorney general is meeting with retailers, including cabella's, wal-mart, and some others. they're all trying to get their ideas. we're told that in this most sensitive meeting, this one at 1:45 that includes the national rifle association, vice president biden is really going to push them to participate to say we need to try and find some area for common ground, for compromise. we're not going to et let you just come in here and give us your
you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president...
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. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun....
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the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think there's two points there. again, there is enormous public support for these measures. the question is whether these populous and progressive organizations and the infrastructure that they have at their disposals can begin to get the legislatures to follow up on public will here. secondly, the nra argument as stephen and michael were eluding to, there have been dozens perhaps hundreds of challenges to gun laws that are on the books across the country. and nearly every single one of them have failed. there is virtually no case law on the federal books
the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think...
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. >> ceo of the nra expected to testify this week. what are you going to ask him? >> one question will be about some of the marketing tactics of the gun manufacturers. promoting assault weapons to children is certainly problematic rife with risk and fraught with peril, a tragedy waiting to happen. my view is that some of the scrutiny ought to apply to the promotion and marketing tactics moved perhaps not by the gun manufacturers directly. i will be asking also about background checks and why the nra can't support this common sense law enforcement tool to make safer our streets and neighborhoods and prevent the kind of tragedy that happened in newtown. newtown is a call to action. 26 beautiful people, 20 wonderful babies and courageous teachers and educators would be alive today. >> are you where we thought we would be in this country with regards to the public debate that is going on right now since newtown, connecticut? >> the public debate on gun violence prevention has always been fraught with controversy. and i am encouraged by many of my colleagues who have be
. >> ceo of the nra expected to testify this week. what are you going to ask him? >> one question will be about some of the marketing tactics of the gun manufacturers. promoting assault weapons to children is certainly problematic rife with risk and fraught with peril, a tragedy waiting to happen. my view is that some of the scrutiny ought to apply to the promotion and marketing tactics moved perhaps not by the gun manufacturers directly. i will be asking also about background...
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the nra association ceo wayne lapierre, is sending the director, the lobbyist for nra's wing to represent the lobbying group in a meeting with the vice president. the president also in attendance, and there will be representatives from walmart, which first declined to attend the meeting due to what they absurdly called a "scheduling conflict." they released a letter, saying knowing our leaders couldn't be there, we shared our perspective. we under estimated the expectation to attend the meeting on thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate. we take this issue very seriously and are committed to staying engaged in this discussion, as the administration and congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward. joining me now is the democratic senator from connecticut, richard blumenthal, who will soon take action on a bill. tell us first of all about the bill you intend to introduce. >> the bill i intend to introduce really has to be seen as part of a comprehensive set of measures that i'm going to be supporting and introducing over the next wee
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maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >> captain mark kelly, thank you very much. we wish you the best of luck in your efforts. >> thank you, mika. thank you, joe. >> thanks for being on the show. >> thank you, captain. and please give our best to your wife. what courageous testimony yesterday. >> it was. it was incredible to hear from her. it said it all. it really did, in very few words. this issue, though, we were talking about generals coming forward, colin powell, different people on our show, and politicians who are moving toward trying to get either bans on assault weapons or background checks for stricter regulation
maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >>...
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is the nra's influence waning? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that certainly they still have popularity. i think people still believe in what they do, but i've got to tell you, i've got to join with governor christie. i make ads for a living. i've been doing it for 20 years and i thought very hard, would i have made that ad? no. it was not done in good taste. i don't think the nra is always helping their cause when they do something like that. with that said, i think that their motivations are actually very good. and i think they have the support of a broad part of america. >> welm, let's talk a little bit about what the democrats are going to do now. because it's clear, jamal, that the president has laid out what he wants to do. the "new york times" reports, though, that democrats are divided over exactly how to move forward. some are pushing for narrowly written bills and what they call a meticulous legislative process. others are looking for kind of guerrilla warfare. they're worried if they go too slowly, that allows enough time for
is the nra's influence waning? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that certainly they still have popularity. i think people still believe in what they do, but i've got to tell you, i've got to join with governor christie. i make ads for a living. i've been doing it for 20 years and i thought very hard, would i have made that ad? no. it was not done in good taste. i don't think the nra is always helping their cause when they do something like that. with that said, i think that their...